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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
[B-]你说它差吧，前半段拍的又比较完美。用场景来刻画人物心理和表现人物的心理这两点做的非常好，把马戏团拍得诡异，恐怖来反衬男主的心理。你说它好吧，后半段的整体剧情太拖沓了，拖了半天后面也并不怎么精彩，给人一种冰火两重天的感觉。很催眠，只能说中规中矩，能看就行
陀螺陷入一种现代文明与魔术幻觉交接年代的情调的营造而不能自拔，这直接影响到故事本身和人物塑造，一手好牌打的稀烂。
#22#16场景服装造型都很出色的翻拍…只能说在如今这个年代，三位大女主被神棍渣男霍霍结果相互之间还都只有点头之交的电影立场就有那么点危险⚠️。最后隔着厕所门忽悠Molly那段对话看得我自我反省…人还是要有自知之明，无尽的欲望总有一天会反噬
3.5星。叙事结构和叙事节奏非常老谋深算、不动声色、曲径通幽，情绪非常克制，因而批判性更强。巴登大叔的表演无懈可击，装腔作势自我标榜得入木三分。
#流动马戏团
这算消费CP粉不doge谁给你的胆子叫人家小白兔HOW DARE U
德托罗本身不擅长黑色类型片，再加上现在是其创作低谷，一出白开水作品。摄影和布景的精致也显得苍白。
cooper还不错，Cate Blanchett气场强大，吉尔莫托罗得影片画面总是很唯美，那迷人的血红，耀眼的金黄，就像是腐蚀男人心智的贪婪，最后归于宿命。Cate Blanchett太厉害，无论是何种面孔都能令人产生错觉，碾压了同场的Cooper，不过故事没有期待中的那么奇情，于是有点意犹未尽。
You don't fool people. They fool themselves.
陀螺陷入一种现代文明与魔术幻觉交接年代的情调的营造而不能自拔，这直接影响到故事本身和人物塑造，一手好牌打的稀烂。
电影在文本改编上基本上延续了47年电影版本，特别是几个主人公的设定跟古尔丁版本一致。可惜两次电影改编都忽略了原著以塔罗牌为章回的意义，电影不约而同的强调了”倒吊人“这张代表“牺牲”的牌。陀螺在结尾的处理基本上还原了格雷沙姆的小说原著，从Geek开始到Geek结束，“恐惧是通往人类本性的钥匙”。
没看过原版，但两个半小时的时长太拖沓！开头悬念，男主放火烧尸，中间回忆几度闪回，尽管有因有果，可男主性格有着说不出的别扭，感觉是剧本强行让他走向geek之路。《卡罗尔》两位女主几乎零互动！啊！宣传照骗人！
这有什么好拍两个半小时的，两个女主都没说几句话！
前面的铺垫确实太过冗长 导致结尾没办法撑得起来
值得一看，但要夸真夸不出什么来，中规中矩的良心制作吧，也只能这样说。
一个大家伙已经实在是看腻了的文本结构，风格再搭也能给骂的惨兮兮，实在是熟悉过了头，以至于再精巧的叙事也没办法遮掩这是一个重复文本的信号。当观众在看一部电影时认识到的却反复是来自别的影像的现象，那么这部电影就已经镂空了，它只能成为一种Parody，尽管我相当入迷陀螺的风格和Carnival文本的向性，甚至完全想要力挺陀螺应聘下一届Bioshock的影像指导，但他哪怕不叙事就表现我都大爱了，如此的翻拍反倒让显相的这部分完全被文本的重复所覆盖，以至于观众会失去判断的能力因为一切的判断的前提都被文本的重复所否决。有几场做的是真的很入味儿，但是如果这个味儿不过是一种对先在文本的回指，那对如此感受本身的判断将不可能脱离对回指项的判断，这样，不如干脆别讲故事。不过虽然但是，还是请布兰切特干我，真的太行了。
cooper还不错，Cate Blanchett气场强大，吉尔莫托罗得影片画面总是很唯美，那迷人的血红，耀眼的金黄，就像是腐蚀男人心智的贪婪，最后归于宿命。Cate Blanchett太厉害，无论是何种面孔都能令人产生错觉，碾压了同场的Cooper，不过故事没有期待中的那么奇情，于是有点意犹未尽。
一个不错的创意最后却拍成了一个冗长无趣的故事，很难想象这出自潘神迷宫的导演，玛拉还是这么美，勉强三星。
前半段马戏团部分有让我想起小时候游乐园里看到过的畸形秀，长大后再也没有了。
3.5吧，可以再短一些。本意期待看到一個大路加魔術爭鬥的東西
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